{"id":49962,"date":"2025-04-14T16:04:49","date_gmt":"2025-04-14T20:04:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/behavioralobservations.com\/?post_type=download&#038;p=49962"},"modified":"2025-04-14T16:04:58","modified_gmt":"2025-04-14T20:04:58","slug":"session-294-ethical-decision-making-in-aba-with-ilene-schwartz-and-beth-kelly","status":"publish","type":"download","link":"https:\/\/behavioralobservations.com\/be_obs\/downloads\/session-294-ethical-decision-making-in-aba-with-ilene-schwartz-and-beth-kelly","title":{"rendered":"Session 294: Ethical Decision Making in ABA with Ilene Schwartz and Beth Kelly"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"\">Listen on: <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/ethical-decision-making-in-applied-behavior-analysis\/id1086413253?i=1000700384072\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/4FUoE2DSxAysBopddLEIDq?si=bMkDNlAUQyu0ZCty6mm7-w\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/lZtHQFWZVIU?si=-cOmZIlgl7FiSkCp\">YouTube<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Drs. Ilene Schwartz and Beth Kelly joined me to discuss the never ending conundrum of navigating ethical dilemmas. As Ilene points out in the podcast, most people know right from wrong, but the types of dilemmas BCBAs encounter are what she calls 'right vs. right' dilemmas...<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Therefore, ethical practice requires a continuous decision making process. And in my guests' view, this is not a matter of decontextualized rule-following. In this podcast, we get into these nuances, using Ilene and Beth's newly published book, <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/4ipIgu5\">Ethical Decision Making in Applied Behavior Analysis<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We also discussed a framework for articulating one's values and principles that you might find helpful in your work setting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Resources for this podcast:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/4ipIgu5\">Ethical Decision Making in Applied Behavior Analysis<\/a>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/articles\/PMC6745580\/\">Rosenberg and Scwhartz (2018)<\/a>. Guidance or Compliance: What Makes an Ethical Behavior Analyst?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/articles\/PMC8149491\/\">Kelly, Greeny, Rosenberg and Schwartz (2020)<\/a>. When Rules Are Not Enough: Developing Principles to Guide Ethical Conduct.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Dr. Schwartz's <a href=\"https:\/\/education.uw.edu\/about\/directory\/ilene-schwartz\">faculty page<\/a>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Dr. Kelly's <a href=\"https:\/\/education.uw.edu\/about\/directory\/elizabeth-kelly-0\">faculty page<\/a>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/behavioralobservations.com\/get-ceus\">BOP's CEUs<\/a>, with many Ethics events.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Listen on: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube Drs. Ilene Schwartz and Beth Kelly joined me to discuss the never ending conundrum of navigating ethical dilemmas. 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