{"id":50057,"date":"2025-05-05T16:21:02","date_gmt":"2025-05-05T20:21:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/behavioralobservations.com\/?p=50057"},"modified":"2025-05-05T16:21:21","modified_gmt":"2025-05-05T20:21:21","slug":"understanding-repetitive-behavior-session-299-with-bill-ahearn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/behavioralobservations.com\/be_obs\/understanding-repetitive-behavior-session-299-with-bill-ahearn","title":{"rendered":"Understanding Repetitive Behavior: Session 299 with Bill Ahearn"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Embed Player\" src=\"https:\/\/play.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/36443975\/height\/128\/theme\/modern\/size\/standard\/thumbnail\/yes\/custom-color\/233d61\/time-start\/00:00:00\/playlist-height\/200\/direction\/backward\/download\/yes\/font-color\/FFFFFF\" height=\"128\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"\" webkitallowfullscreen=\"true\" mozallowfullscreen=\"true\" oallowfullscreen=\"true\" msallowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border: none;\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Listen on: <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/understanding-repetitive-behavior-session-299-with\/id1086413253?i=1000706433249\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/4HetDk7TV9BBbo4eXXE6dN?si=vguRVUUcSGG6NddAvUTryA\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/Nk8frIuEuFA?si=bdQmrrGF144u3Q_Y\">YouTube<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Dr. Bill Ahearn joins me in Session 299 of Behavioral Observation. I met Bill a few times at conferences and I'm so glad we finally had a chance to sit down and record a podcast together.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Bill is the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.necc.org\/research\/research-team\/\">Director of Research<\/a> at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.necc.org\/\">The New England Center for Children<\/a>. Long time listeners may recall that NECC sponsored a series of episodes, and in this podcast, we talked about some of the great research that has come out of that storied institution.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">As an aside, if you want to learn more about NECC, particularly working at NECC, you can find more information about that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.necc.org\/jobs\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We covered a lot of ground in this conversation, including:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">Bill's early experiences as a grad student and clinician.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">His early work in addressing feeding problems.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">The research that he and his colleagues have conducted at NECC.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">How he construes stereotypic and self-injurious behavior as being forms of repetitive behavior.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">What he's learned about addressing stereotypy, including when and when not to intervene.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">We talk at length about Response Interruption and Redirection, particularly when it is and isn't necessary as an intervention.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">The behavioral interpretation of anxiety, and interventions that he and his team have brought to bear on related repertoires.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">I ask a few lighter questions on some topics of mutual interest (you'll have to listen towards the end to hear that).<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">If you listen to nothing else from this podcast, towards the end of the show, Bill talks about why he is proud to be a Behavior Analyst. Please listen to that segment, as I think he makes some excellent points that are more than worth sharing.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We also talked about tons of papers. I've done my best to track as many down as possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1901\/jaba.2000.33-13\">Piazza et al. (2000)<\/a>. An evaluation of the effects of matched stimuli on behaviors maintained by automatic reinforcement.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/15885981\/\">Rapp and Vollmer (2005)<\/a>. Stereotypy I: A review of behavioral assessment and treatment.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/17624067\/\">Ahearn et al. (2007)<\/a>. Assessing and treating vocal stereotypy in children with autism.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/22403453\/\">Col\u00f3n et al. (2012)<\/a>. The effects of verbal operant training and response interruption and redirection on appropriate and inappropriate vocalizations.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.tandfonline.com\/doi\/abs\/10.3109\/13668250.2013.812192\">Rodriguez et al. (2013)<\/a>. Arranging and ordering in autism spectrum disorder: Characteristics, severity, and environmental correlates.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1002\/jaba.847\">Steinhauser et al. (2021)<\/a>. Examining stereotypy in naturalistic contexts: Differential reinforcement and context-specific redirection.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/34713755\/\">Moore et al. (2022)<\/a>. Assessing and Treating Anxiety in Individuals with Autism.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.proquest.com\/openview\/7f945425a9e3143952e78c87d5e52ddd\/1?cbl=18750&amp;diss=y&amp;pq-origsite=gscholar\">Fergus (2024)<\/a>. 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