{"id":50163,"date":"2025-06-24T15:24:45","date_gmt":"2025-06-24T19:24:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/behavioralobservations.com\/?p=50163"},"modified":"2025-06-24T15:25:02","modified_gmt":"2025-06-24T19:25:02","slug":"using-aba-to-build-better-health-and-fitness-habits-session-303-with-michal-pollack","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/behavioralobservations.com\/be_obs\/using-aba-to-build-better-health-and-fitness-habits-session-303-with-michal-pollack","title":{"rendered":"Using ABA to Build Better Health and Fitness Habits: Session 303 with Michal Pollack"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Embed Player\" src=\"https:\/\/play.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/37138100\/height\/128\/theme\/modern\/size\/standard\/thumbnail\/yes\/custom-color\/233d61\/time-start\/00:00:00\/playlist-height\/200\/direction\/backward\/download\/yes\/font-color\/FFFFFF\" height=\"128\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"\" webkitallowfullscreen=\"true\" mozallowfullscreen=\"true\" oallowfullscreen=\"true\" msallowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border: none;\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Listen on: <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/using-aba-to-build-better-health-and-fitness-habits\/id1086413253?i=1000714393394\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/5j08eEplWfQEItrB0qfAI5?si=icbW7h0TQK2GRlhr37FGzg\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/CdVbhjwjJ9o?si=zYQJe4hzCCAe5rA-\">YouTube<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/michal-pollack-2b80131b6\/\">Michal Pollack<\/a> joined me to discuss how she uses her training in Behavior Analysis to help her with her personal health and fitness goals.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Michal is a Clinical Director at <a href=\"https:\/\/apollobehavior.com\/\">Apollo Behavior<\/a>. In this episode, we talk about:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">How she got her start in Applied Behavior Analysis.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">How she found her way to Apollo, and what she enjoys about working there.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">How she realized that getting fit doesn't require playing team sports, or being an athlete more generally.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">How spending time abroad during a gap year motivated her to adopt a healthier lifestyle.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">How going to the gym regularly helped her improve her emotional wellbeing.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">How she developed grocery shopping habits that helped her eat healthier meals.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">How she doesn't weigh herself frequently, and the rationale for this practice.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">We both talk about the pros and cons of wearable devices, and how I use <a href=\"http:\/\/join.whoop.com\/matt\">The Whoop Strap<\/a> (note, this is an affiliate).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">I want to make clear that during this podcast, it's important to note that neither of us are health or fitness professionals. We're not attempting to provide specific advice for listeners that's outside of our scopes of expertise.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Instead, a better framing of this episode is to consider this a conversation between two BCBAs talking about how they apply behavior-analytic principles in their own lives.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">As such, if you're looking to make changes to your fitness, please consider working with a credentialed professional, with the input of your primary care provider.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">You can follow Michal on TikTok or LinkedIn <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@aba_with_micki\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/michal-pollack-2b80131b6\/\">here<\/a>. If you'd like to learn more about working at Apollo, you can read about them <a href=\"https:\/\/apollobehavior.com\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Articles and resources mentioned:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/articles\/PMC3545514\/pdf\/jaba-45-04-871.pdf\">Camp and Hayes (2012)<\/a>. Assessing and Increasing Physical Activity.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1002\/bin.277\">Donaldson and Normand (2009)<\/a>. Using goal setting, self-monitoring, and feedback to increase calorie expenditure in obese adults.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/onlinelibrary.wiley.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1901\/jaba.2011.44-635\">Hustyi, Normand, and Larson (2013)<\/a>. Behavioral assessment of physical activity in obese preschool children.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">The aforementioned <a href=\"http:\/\/join.whoop.com\/matt\">Whoop Strap<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">This podcast is brought to you by:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fronterahealth.com\/demo\/\">Frontera<\/a>. Consider taking a <a href=\"https:\/\/fronterahealth.com\/demo\/\">demo<\/a> of Frontera's Assessment Builder and see how the ethical application of AI technologies can help you serve clients and save you time! Your first assessment report is free. And if you use code <strong>BOP25<\/strong> you\u2019ll get an additional five assessments for just $100. So head to <a href=\"https:\/\/fronterahealth.com\">fronterahealth.com<\/a>&nbsp;to check it out!<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/behavioralobservations.com\/get-ceus\">CEUs from Behavioral Observations<\/a>. 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