{"id":50765,"date":"2026-04-25T14:40:53","date_gmt":"2026-04-25T18:40:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/behavioralobservations.com\/be_obs\/?p=50765"},"modified":"2026-04-25T14:41:00","modified_gmt":"2026-04-25T18:41:00","slug":"supporting-health-and-wellness-in-developmental-disabilities-session-330-brandon-may-maggie-pavone-and-kate-heersink","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/behavioralobservations.com\/be_obs\/supporting-health-and-wellness-in-developmental-disabilities-session-330-brandon-may-maggie-pavone-and-kate-heersink","title":{"rendered":"Supporting Health and Wellness in Developmental Disabilities: Session 330: Brandon May, Maggie Pavone, and Kate Heersink"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Embed Player\" src=\"https:\/\/play.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/41014040\/height\/128\/theme\/modern\/size\/standard\/thumbnail\/yes\/custom-color\/233d61\/time-start\/00:00:00\/playlist-height\/200\/direction\/backward\/download\/yes\/font-color\/FFFFFF\" height=\"128\" width=\"100%\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"\" webkitallowfullscreen=\"true\" mozallowfullscreen=\"true\" oallowfullscreen=\"true\" msallowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"border: none;\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Listen on <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/supporting-health-and-wellness-in-developmental\/id1086413253?i=1000763584583\" type=\"link\" id=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/supporting-health-and-wellness-in-developmental\/id1086413253?i=1000763584583\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/7dxyg67chFrJ4BT2nvOILl?si=MHSGwXP9TbyshN6XsFnb3g\" type=\"link\" id=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/episode\/7dxyg67chFrJ4BT2nvOILl?si=MHSGwXP9TbyshN6XsFnb3g\">Spotify<\/a> | <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=7IOqV4xWtXc\" type=\"link\" id=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=7IOqV4xWtXc\">YouTube<\/a><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">In this episode, I\u2019m joined by Drs. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.eliteaba.com\/why-pick-elite\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Brandon May<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lindenwood.edu\/about\/directories\/faculty-staff-directory\/details\/MPavone\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Maggie Pavone<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/kateheersink12\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Kate Heersink<\/a> to talk about how we can better support healthier lifestyles for individuals with developmental disabilities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We start by digging into how each of them came to this work. Maggie shares some early experiences working as a direct support professional, where she began to notice patterns between food-related variables and challenging behavior. Brandon talks about coming into behavior analysis through the health and fitness world, and seeing firsthand how difficult it was to support individuals in building healthier routines without a clear behavioral framework. Kate adds her perspective from working with individuals with brain injury, where the connection between physical health and overall functioning is hard to ignore.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We also spend some time acknowledging that this isn\u2019t entirely new territory. There\u2019s a solid body of work\u2014both within and outside of behavior analysis\u2014focused on physical activity and health for individuals with disabilities. At the same time, there\u2019s still a gap when it comes to practical, easy-to-implement tools that can be used by the people doing the day-to-day work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">From there, we get into the early development of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.fit4allaba.com\/program-overview\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Fit 4 All<\/a> program and how it\u2019s currently being implemented in a day program setting for adults with developmental disabilities. Kate walks through what a typical session looks like, including:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">Starting the day by ensuring wearable tech (e.g., a Fitbit) is in place<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Using a token system tied to individualized goals (hydration, movement, functional fitness, and nutrition skills)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Embedding physical activity throughout the day (walking, fitness videos, etc.)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Teaching basic nutrition concepts using structured learning trials<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Incorporating functional skills like cooking where appropriate<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">One of the things I appreciated about this approach is how integrated it is. Rather than treating exercise or nutrition as separate, isolated targets, they\u2019re woven into the flow of the day and supported through clear contingencies and reinforcement systems.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We also talk about the importance of working within real-world environments. This isn\u2019t about creating tightly controlled, clinic-based interventions\u2014it\u2019s about meeting people where they are and building systems that can be implemented by direct support staff, teachers, and caregivers in the settings where individuals actually live and spend their time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">This is very much a \u201cboots on the ground\u201d application of behavior analysis\u2014figuring out how to increase things like step count, heart rate, and water consumption in ways that are practical, sustainable, and individualized. And like a lot of good ABA work, it involves ongoing problem-solving\u2014adjusting activities, testing different approaches, and using data to guide decisions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">If you\u2019re a BCBA, or someone working directly with individuals with developmental disabilities, this conversation is a good reminder that health and wellness is an area where our science has a lot to offer\u2014and probably more room to grow.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\ud83d\udd11 <strong>Key Takeaways<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">Health behaviors (movement, nutrition, hydration) are behavior\u2014and can be addressed using behavior-analytic principles<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Many professionals feel underprepared to support these areas without a structured framework<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Embedding interventions into <strong>natural environments<\/strong> (e.g., day programs) increases feasibility and sustainability<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Simple systems (token boards, wearable data, clear goals) can support meaningful behavior change<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Effective programming in this area requires flexibility, creativity, and ongoing data-based decision making<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\ud83e\udde9 <strong>Why This Matters<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Individuals with developmental disabilities are often at higher risk for health-related issues tied to sedentary behavior and diet. At the same time, these are areas that don\u2019t always receive systematic attention in programming.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">This is one place where behavior analysis can have a meaningful impact on long-term quality of life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">\ud83d\udcda <strong>Resources Mentioned<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">Prior episode with Brandon (<a href=\"https:\/\/behavioralobservations.com\/be_obs\/what-is-behavioral-sports-psychology-session-127-with-brandon-may\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Session 127<\/a>: What is Behavioral Sports Psychology?)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Researchers mentioned:\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/profile\/James-Rimmer\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">James Rimmer<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/profile\/Raymond-Miltenberger\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Ray Miltenberger<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.researchgate.net\/profile\/Matthew-Normand\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Matt Normand<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/behavioralobservations.com\/downloads\/session-212-token-economy-101-considerations-for-research-and-practice-2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Tim Hackenberg<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\"><a href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/1429319\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">DeLuca and Holburn (1992)<\/a>. 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